bumping up for myself, and bc this has come up again recently
Would you (or your company) pay ~99$/mo for the ability for you to create/administer teams? (pricing based on basecamp)
If there’s still enough interest in this, it might make sense to prioritize
I don’t think my org would buy into it unfortunately. When our Scrum Master saw Kinopio, he said it “looked like Miro” () which we already pay team pricing for
Thanks, that’s good to know now rather than later
(adding my data point) Any kind of team plan doesn’t work in my situation because we have a policy of only using approved tools. The process for getting approved is elaborate and requires things such as security audits, etc. The big motivation is to protect our company intellectual property.
I’m not super familiar with the process, but I do know that for years, we had an advocate inside the company to get Trello approved. Even after they were acquired by Atlassian, it was still laborious. It required getting enough users signed on for a pilot. It never materialized, that advocate left, so still no Trello at the company.
So, I’m just using Kinopio as a personal tool that I occasionally share and don’t put any proprietary stuff on there. Hence, a team plan doesn’t make sense in my context.
Ben
Why?
Apps focused on team works usually turnes into a behemoths of an app with a huge learning curve and super expensive after a while.
You only need to take a look at Evernote and Milanote to observe this tendency.
yup for all these reasons i’ve basically cancelled plans for formal team stuff. That market is just not compatible with kinopio
I’'m not as sure nowadays how I feel about teams, I think there’s a way to do it right in a way that doesn’t compromise the normal person user experience. Based on the feedback above, any teams plan wouldn’t be for the fortune 500 that have in-depth approval processes, but for smaller startups/teams-within-large-companies. But I’m still taking a “wait and see how the demand evolves” approach.
That said, pinging here to ask about the whether the ability to email ppl space invites is still an important feature for you to use at work?
invite as email requested in Discord
working on inviting by email, here’s a rough draft of the ui based on the google docs but simplified for v1 scope - no fancy email autocomplete, but I may save your last sent emails and prefill it for next time. UI thoughts?
i’m not sure if a username should be Required to email invites (so I can say tell ppl who the invite is from), but it will warn/remind you to add a username if you don’t already have one
i know it’s a little late, but getting this right and shipping a teams offering is finally up next
I’ve been thinking about this, while planning out how teams can work, and I think the big revelation for me looking at evernote etc. is that adding support for teams isn’t what made these products become bloated and start to suck. Rather, I believe that the root problem was a desperation to appease investors/shareholders.
When you’re raising rounds of capital and hiring hundreds of devs and other employees that you’re paying each $100k to $300k/yr , there’s no world where you’re making that money back selling a powerful, efficient, elegant, and easy to use tool to the people who love using it.
No, you need to be everything to everyone. You need lucrative enterprise contracts, and the direction and priorities of development are solely around answer the requests of your 1% customer. Note that isn’t even the same as solving the problems of your 1% customer.
In enterprise sales, the person buying your product is rarely the one who has to use it. But they’ll have a lot of requests for checklist features that no one will actually use but need to be there for the sake of imagined compliance, but mostly so that they can impress their boss.
Kinopio is different because we don’t have those business dependencies. I’m able to push back, or recommend a competitor’s product to someone with needs that don’t fit the product.
This is not so dissimilar to what I wrote about In Search of Organic Software , the exra nuance being that it’s not simply vc investment that breaks a product, it’s that the investment is insanely speculative/optimistic and not proportional to the real audience for a good product.